"JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t" (jawzx2)
07/08/2020 at 16:40 • Filed to: None
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"JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t" (jawzx2)
07/08/2020 at 16:40 • Filed to: None | 2
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Tesla has at least had it’s electric semi trucks out testing for a while now, and Nikola’s IPO made it suddenly the most valuable manufacturer(?) of (maybe existing) specialty semi tractors in the world...
Meanwhile, in South Korea:
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We’ve all heard the arguments about how FC technology is a dead end, and “ blah blah hydrogen filling stations don’t exist blah” and yet, here’s a zero-emissions big-rig from Korea you can buy today that can be recharged in under 20 minutes and has a range of up to 600 miles .
HammerheadFistpunch
> JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
07/08/2020 at 17:04 |
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Meanwhile Toyota has had FC semi’s for 3 years
I don’t know where they get off saying they are first to deliver, since these have been working for the LA port autho ri ty as shunt trucks for a few years at least.
Nom De Plume
> JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
07/08/2020 at 17:08 |
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That was one your pip of individual thought that is allowed for the year. Back to hard focus on the insular environment here right now, Mr.
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JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
> HammerheadFistpunch
07/08/2020 at 17:17 |
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I think maybe the deal is that just anyone can buy the Hyundai... No fleet contracts or special location deals. The Toyotas (wouldn’t they be Hinos?) are not for sale generally... Ahh, also the Toyota is a joint venture with Kenworth, the Hyundai is all Hyundai...
Further research indicates that the Toyota/Kenworth units are "prototypes" and are essentially in extended beta test at the LA port. The Hyundais are in series production.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
07/08/2020 at 17:26 |
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I guess thats pretty good for Hyundai. Personally I see the major benefit of Hydrogen trucks is something exactly like this. short to medium range with central bass fueling.
SiennaMan
> HammerheadFistpunch
07/08/2020 at 18:02 |
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That seems to me like the low hanging fruit too. Install hydrogen fueling stations at places like a UPS distribution center and have the trucks going from there to the last mile on hydrogen or battery electric..
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HammerheadFistpunch
> SiennaMan
07/08/2020 at 18:04 |
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bingo. This interstate BEV idea isn’t the easy or pressing problem to solve. interstate trucks get decent enough economy per lbs of goods delivered and the new regs are seriously cutting into harmful emissions. It’ s the last mile where a ton of fuel is being wasted.
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
07/08/2020 at 18:07 |
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“Hyundai Motor is also planning a long-distance tractor unit capable of traveling 1,000 kilometers (over 600 miles) on a single charge that will be aimed at the North American and continental European markets.”
1000kms on a charge would be a huge game-changer and they would trounce Tesla if they could bring it over before Tesla releases their truck....thing is, Hydrogen refills quicker than full-EVs, so no matter how quick Tesla manages to recharge the Tesla semi’s massive battery pack, the Hyundais would likely take less than that which is a major trucking advantage when the more loads delivered in a period of time = more money.
I hope they bring them over here, I wonder if they designed the current ones to meet requirements in North America?
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SiennaMan
> HammerheadFistpunch
07/08/2020 at 18:09 |
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And you’re spot on when you say wasted. Interstate diesel rigs are running fairly close to peak efficiency the vast majority of the time where as a delivery van for a parcel service is burning diesel/gas idling a large percentage of their day. On top of that, I suspect they typically get parked at night at fixed locations where it’d be relatively easy to run electric or install hydrogen infrastructure,
by comparison an interstate trucker is literally all over the map..
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> HammerheadFistpunch
07/08/2020 at 20:51 |
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On the front page someone chimed in the semi will be sucking 1MW in 20 minutes. Thats more than 2200 homes. They would need a substation or a huge battery bank to hook it up.
zipfuel
> JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
07/08/2020 at 21:21 |
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I don’t know
any
guaranteed ways to make money in the markets but am dead sure
you’d lose
on
Nikola. They seem to be
purely trading
on name
association
with
Tesla
while peddling bullshit.
I post
this graphic often
: (maybe @ you once before? If so sorry)
Making a
working fuel
cell vehicle is the only easy part of hydrogen.